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Yes, that was released in 2007, not 1947. Transnistria is a nation that no one recognizes. Its chief export is crime, and the maximum leader also owns the sports stadium. They manufacture knock-off Russian weapons and sell them on the black market and conduct a lively trade in human slaves while trans-shipping opium from Afghanistan. And yes, they are in Europe.

It's one of the secessionist provinces of Moldova - a country so poor that it seriously has counties whose chief export is human kidneys. And it used to be owned by Vlad the Impaler.

-Username17

Man, when I hear of so many Eastern European countries plagued with violence and poverty, I think "Man, what went wrong?" If I had to guess, it would probably involve Soviets, but that's just me.

FrankTrollman at [unixtime wrote:1203464243[/unixtime]]Its chief export is crime...

-Username17

That's is the last straw. I hereby declare that I am no longer a homo sapien. I am now a sapien awesome. Anybody want to evolve with me?

the_taken at [unixtime wrote:1203465851[/unixtime]]

FrankTrollman at [unixtime wrote:1203464243[/unixtime]]Its chief export is crime...

-Username17

That's is the last straw. I hereby declare that I am no longer a homo sapien. I am now a sapien awesome. Anybody want to evolve with me?

But evolution is against GOD! If our ancestors weren't human, it would magnify our failures and diminish our victories! Screw the whole "but what about loving one another" and "thou shalt not kill?" Those rules would be null and void if Darwin was right!

Captain_Bleach at [unixtime wrote:1203467141[/unixtime]]

the_taken at [unixtime wrote:1203465851[/unixtime]]

FrankTrollman at [unixtime wrote:1203464243[/unixtime]]Its chief export is crime...

-Username17

That's is the last straw. I hereby declare that I am no longer a homo sapien. I am now a sapien awesome. Anybody want to evolve with me?

But evolution is against GOD! If our ancestors weren't human, it would magnify our failures and diminish our victories! Screw the whole "but what about loving one another" and "thou shalt not kill?" Those rules would be null and void if Darwin was right!

Those rules are failures. "Love thy brother" has been interpreted as "kill all homos" and "thou shalt not kill" leads to really bad people that fvck you money and kill your lovers to live on to continue to fvck good people's money and kill their lovers.

Fvck humanity, I'm awesome sapien. I'm next. I'm now. I'm awesome.

Edit-> Noooooo! I've incited a flame war! Aaah!

the_taken at [unixtime wrote:1203467799[/unixtime]]
Those rules are failures. "Love thy brother" has been interpreted as "kill all homos" and "thou shalt not kill" leads to really bad people that fvck you money and kill your lovers to live on to continue to fvck good people's money and kill their lovers.

That's because most people pay attention to their religion's rules only when it suits them. Too bad, as some religious pacifists had some good ideas, only to get screwed over by vicious human nature.

Good thing I'm not human.

I wikied the country but I can't find exactly what the whole problem is with just recognizing the country. If they succeed from Molodov, they can move on and either be asshats piss people off and we could have an open war and end the whole thing, or the place gets better and every thing's fine.

It's like Quebec and Canada. If the francophones want to be a different country, then they can leave and everyone is totally cool with that happening. Canada actually is willing to let them go if the province can agree apon leaving. It doesn't 'cause enough referendum voters know that leaving Canada would fvck them out of their wealth and power by (not so) secret power hungry Nazi-esque racists that want to turn the place into a pre-French Revolution society run by the Church of Jesus's Mom.

Taken has a great point.
Speciation occurs when members of the same species can not interbreed.

Since we distinguish ourselves from those violent turds to the point where no sane member of OUR population would mix with THEM, are we the same species?
Or is such a phenomenon determined by possibile genetic recombination rather than figuring that it would never happen, even if possible?

Violence is not genetic, Sigma.

The Couldya Wouldya Shouldya test is extremely effective in determining whether two creatures are the same species.

In this case. Although I could sex up a violence crazed religious fundamentalist and reproduce, I wouldn't cause I don't like them, and definitely nobody should be procreating with people that damage society as a whole.

I've also heard of an Ametican lizard species that evolved two different pigmentation patterns while migrating down opposite sides of a large valley. When they met at the other end, they didn't recognize each other as the same species and don't interbreed. Although they most definitely could, and should isn't a factor, they simply won't 'cause they're not interested. They are quite literally different species in respects to each other, though sometimes consider their common ancestor (still not extinct, up north) the same species.

Cielingcat at [unixtime wrote:1203481740[/unixtime]]Violence is not genetic, Sigma.

The capacity for violence is present in all creatures capable of it. It's the irrational predisposition to use violence as solution that may be genetic, although it may be environmental factors that encourage violence too.

Cielingcat at [unixtime wrote:1203481740[/unixtime]]Violence is not genetic, Sigma.

It is a factor.
And don't do the quantum theory cat thing on me either, it won't work.

@Captain Bleach

It doesn't involve the Soviet, it involves the USA and EU.

The Soviets loved to build certain kinds of things. Sewage systems, water treatment, hospitals, metro lines, universities, iron works, etc. They loved to build them so much that they made some of the best in the world. In those places where the systems have been kept up at all, they are often still world class. The Moscow Subway or the German Bahn system are world class today.

However if you're in an area of low population density like Lithuania, the trains suck because there was never that much of a place for them. Everyone goes around in cars. And the Soviets were way more interested in making tractors than cars - so the old Soviet cars basically drive like tractors. Rugged and slow, they don't need super great roads to drive on so they never got those either.

Moldova is an area where the vast majority of people want a return to Soviet rule. This is because in the time since independence from the Soviet Union all their doctors have moved out and their people have nothing to eat. There are counties where the major export is seriously human kidneys. And while the giant and effective sewers that the Soviets built are now a hazard because people steal the manhole covers for the iron and the government can't afford to run all the street lights, they still stand as mute testimony to the time when the people of Bessarabia could rely on their government for food and basic services.

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Other areas of Eastern Europe are not so bad. Actually there are parts of Africa which aren't that bad, but there are places in Eastern Europe which are nice. While I did seriously get a form from the Czech government that I was supposed to take to Germany to get a stamp only to be told there that it needed another stamp from the Czech Republic before I could do that only to be told in the Czech Republic that it was the wrong form anyway - that's not a legacy of Sovietism. Go ahead and read Kafka, this country has been like this for hundreds of years.

But Prague is beautiful. And legacies of Soviet civil services haven't been completely destroyed by Klaus and his band of ass hats. The hospital in Motol is an important modern European hospital. And the people of Czech Republic can use its services to the fullest without paying through the ass like in the US.

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The big problem with Eastern Europe generally is that mostly what happened when the Soviet Empire fell is that criminals came in and tore up the achievements of the Soviets and sold them for personal profit, rather than having any kind of program to build on those achievements to fully modernize. In those places where they did build upon what the Soviets built (like Berlin), the place is awesome.

East Berlin hasn't covered up the bullet holes from World War II, but that's part of the city's history now. They have modern trains and healthcare and everything, and the refurbish the insides of the buildings. It's just the outsides that they leave all shot up - it's like being in Egypt only you can drink the water.

-Username17

Captain_Bleach at [unixtime wrote:1203467141[/unixtime]]

the_taken at [unixtime wrote:1203465851[/unixtime]]But evolution is against GOD!

First of all I think we are talking about personal (or pokemon) evolution not species evolution. Ironically this is in the Bible

Pokemon is sanctioned by the Bible. Awesome.

Was anyone else getting 'Wisconsin with military dictator' vibes off of Pridnestrovie?

I looked it up a bit, and learned that the area is so-named because it is the area on the other side of the (D)Nistria river. Hence Trans(d)nistria.
[edit]Like Transylvania. Except I looked it up, and learned that it didn't mean 'That place on the other side of the forest' but came from 'that really foresty place' apparently.[/edit]

Since whether you spell/pronounce the name with the 'D' in it seems to depend on the language you are using, I take it that this is highly political?

You live somewhere with trams and you complain about the public transport?

I live in a town where a small and obscure part of the local folk lore speaks of a semi mythical bus stop somewhere on the highway.

But it is unmarked and no one knows where it is.

Also, no one has personally seen "the bus" or knows where it goes, or when it goes there.

My husband lived 4 miles from the nearest bus stop. It made having a life rather difficult for him.

There was a program on National Geographic about the coming to age for men across the world. In this episode, they were focusing upon Near Mongolia. You know, the place that used to be part of Russia, and might still be.

So they were talking about the impact of requiring school for every child, that the family had access to a bearcat tractor from the fifties that the soviets provided so that the families could get to town and back to their village to go to school and get supplies beyond their subsistence life, and how these impacted the lives of these people.

Yes, because providing health care, school required for every individual, and even making sure that they could get to these services - with a vehicle that's fifty years old and still running as well as it ever did.

So horrible. *rolleyes* Ugh. Stupid patriarchy.

-Crissa

Wait, what? I'm afraid I don't know what you meant with that. What was the horrible part?